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Former U.S. Air Force surgical assistant, Emery Smith, dropped another bombshell in his latest interview on Cosmic Disclosure (Gaia TV) by revealing he often worked alongside extraterrestrials in a classified program located at Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico, from 1992 to 1995.

In his interview with New York Times best-selling author David Wilcock, Smith described different groups of extraterrestrials that assisted in autopsies conducted on other beings of non-Earth origin:

And some of those scientists and physicians are actually of “un-Earth origin” – this is the term they use – which are extraterrestrials, which have volunteered, either after being captured or volunteered through the system, through the compartmentalized program, to work to actually help us, because they kind of actually feel bad sometimes, even after we capture them and beat the heck out of them and do horrible things to them.

They actually turn around and willingly want to help us and stay with us and teach them about their own physiological phenotypes, about their own race…

I might be actually assisting an extraterrestrial, helping complete the mission, whatever the mission is: gathering frequencies using devices, or gathering tissue samples, or running special tests of the bodies, which actually . . . They can scan the whole body and 3D print that body later on….

Smith asserted the extraterrestrials as benevolent, even though they possessed advanced psychic abilities that could be used as weapons:

I would say they’re benevolent. I would say they’re a very humanitarian type of thought process. They’re a lot smarter than us.

They could actually at any time probably do damage to us or hurt us with their telekinesis and telepathic abilities, but they don’t….

Smith explained that the extraterrestrials projected a warm friendly ambience that was felt by the human scientists working alongside them:

Being next to one of these extraterrestrials, by the way, including the Ant people and the Mantis people, you have a really beautiful self feeling being in their energy fields.

And people have actually had miraculous healings by being on these craft and working on the craft and working just in the vicinity of an extraterrestrial.

David: How does THAT work?

Emery: I do not know how that works. I think it’s electromagnetic of some frequency that allows the body, their body, that already generates a very, very high vibration, . . . It actually brings our vibration up so our cells are running at a specific voltage so our own cells can heal ourself….

You don’t need to because a lot of this energy is telepathic and telekinetic, so you actually feel happy.

You might . . . Like you get chills walking into a dark room at night because you might feel a ghost, but it’s the opposite. It actually enlightens you. It actually puts you in a good mood, and your body picks up on this.

Smith referred to an accident involving a group of extraterrestrials he called the ant people (insectoids), who assisted in the examination of some of their brethren that had been killed in an industrial accident:

Emery: There was a big project where they found multiple Ant people that were somehow killed by chemicals of some sort. And there was a lot of them that were brought into the facility, I remember, by the truckloads actually.

David: Did you have any idea where these casualties happened?

Emery: No, I don’t know. I do believe it was in North America somewhere.

David: In an underground facility then?

Emery: Yeah, I think that somehow they were discovered, and I think they were probably taken out in some fashion in the New Mexico, Colorado area….

I don’t know the specifics, but they did bring in multiple beings. And these beings all died of asphyxiation, and their lungs were completely burned out, and some of their mucous membranes and eyeballs were completely burned out….

So these Ant scientists that were there were actually assisting, trying to find out and see what happened to these individuals.

David: Now were the Ant people in the room that were alive the same types as the ones that were dead?…

Emery: Yes, the exact same types. And it was the first time I’ve ever felt sorrow next to an extraterrestrial.

David: Really? What was that like?

Emery: It was really upsetting. That was . . . [Emery feels strong emotion, stops, turns away, tears up.] sorry….

Illustration of Ant being. Source: Gaia.com

Smith described how his tissue extraction expertise also involved working on extraterrestrial craft that was located near the bodies of their former inhabitants:

I was brought into what they call “multi-level projects”, which means it’s not just me going in there harvesting a piece of tissue, but you’re actually harvesting many different kinds of tissue and also working with the being’s craft.

So these projects could have up to three teams of 15 scientists and physicians and technicians working on just one being and one craft….

They usually keep the extraterrestrials and the craft separate. So you might have a bay not too far away, maybe within 300 meters, which is very close, by the way, because these things are SO spread out underground, you know, up to 10 miles in diameter some of these bases.

And you will have the being . . . The being is separate. And then you’ll have the craft in another bay. These are all very clean areas, which I can describe in detail.

In a previous article, I covered another interview where Smith described being taken to a large hemisphere-shaped room where an extraterrestrial craft was being reverse engineered.

Smith recollected working with insectoids (Ant and Preying Mantis looking entities), human looking (Arcturian) extraterrestrials, Simians (intelligent ape-like beings), Reptilians and even rock-like beings:

And some of those actually looked like a rock formation, like that . . . one of those superheroes that’s made out of a rock you see on TV and . . . Like “The Fantastic Four”. And they don’t . . . They look like they’re hard and rock, but they’re not. They actually have a spongy-type feel to them, kind of like an actual sea sponge where it’s very porous material.

They are usually a gold or an orange-type color. And they are very robust with a large Cro-Magnon-type skull, which is a little bit . . . about twice the size of our heads and a lot, like I said, more robust looking.

And they have been spotted on the projects many times in many different ways.

Smith’s testimony helps corroborate previous accounts of whistleblowers that they have worked alongside extraterrestrials at classified facilities.

These include Bill Uhouse, an aerospace engineer, who says he worked alongside Gray aliens who assisted in reverse engineering spacecraft being studied at classified Air Force facilities.

Niara Isley, a former USAF radar tracking expert, says that she witnessed Gray and Reptilian beings that were part of a classified program, where she was traumatized by human operatives.

Daniel Crain Burisch, a microbiologist, also says that he worked with a Gray being at a classified facility in order to better understand its physiology and medical needs.

A former security guard, Thomas Castello, claims that he worked alongside Reptilians at the Dulce underground facility, where biological experiments were being conducted on captive humans, and where abducted humans were often taken before being returned.

Charles Hall, a former USAF weatherman, says that he observed Tall White extraterrestrials helping USAF develop atomic powered spacecraft for short interplanetary travel.

Finally, Smith’s testimony corroborates Bill Tompkins‘ claims that US Navy spies observed Nazi scientists being assisted by Reptilians in the development of Germany’s secret space programs in the 1940’s. Tompkins also said that human looking extraterrestrials had infiltrated Douglas Aircraft Company and other US corporations in the 1950’s and 1960’s, and were covertly assisting the US Navy in developing its secret space program, Solar Warden.

In conclusion, Smith’s credentials and documents prove that he worked at Kirtland Air Force Base as a Surgical First Assist from 1990 to 1995.  He has since gone on to work in the medical industry where he has gained patents and collaborated in innovative science research. All this supports his astonishing claims that he participated in autopsies on 250 extraterrestrial entities, and extracted a total of approximately 3000 tissue samples during his covert service.

Smith’s revelations confirm that scientists from different nations have been assisted by different groups of extraterrestrials in studying alien physiology, advanced medical science, and reverse engineering antigravity spacecraft for decades in classified programs. His testimony shows how far classified programs have evolved, despite official government claims that extraterrestrial life has still not been discovered.

[Note: Emery Smith’s interviews on Cosmic Disclosure can be found here.]

Michael Salla, Ph.D. Copyright Notice 

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On June 18, President Donald Trump gave a speech where he called for the development of a United States Space Force that takes over current space functions of the U.S. Air Force. The proposed Space Force would become the sixth branch of the U.S. military, and would have equal authority to the USAF.

At the National Space Council meeting held at the White House, Trump said:

We must have American dominance in space… I’m hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces…. We are going to have the Air Force, and we are going to have the space force. Separate, but equal. It is going to be something so important.

Trump then commanded General Joseph Dunford, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to “carry that assignment out.”

Trump’s stance is at odds with previous statements by the U.S. Air Force Secretary, Air Force Chief of Staff, and James Mattis, Secretary of Defense, who all came out in opposition to a Congressional initiative in 2017 to establish a Space Corps. Mattis wrote in a letter:

I oppose the creation of a new military service and additional organizational layers at a time when we are focused on reducing overhead and integrating joint warfighting efforts.

Trump’s initiative thereby stands out since he has gone against the recommendations of his most senior military advisors.

As pointed out by one military analyst, Trump does not have the authority to create a new military service, only the U.S. Congress can do so. Trump does have, however, the authority to start planning for the creation of such a service as he demonstrated by ordering General Dunford to start the process.

There are multiple questions that arise from Trump’s initiative. Why is he going forward on a plan that is opposed by his senior military advisors? How does the proposed Space Force mesh with whistleblower/insider claims that the Air Force already has a secret space program? Finally, what of additional claims that the U.S. Navy has a much more advanced Deep Space program with kilometers long space carriers that uses Space Marines as a fighting force?

In finding answers to such questions, it is important to understand that by ordering the creation of a Space Force, Trump is shaking the bureaucratic and corporate tree that hides the Secret Space Program that the Air Force runs along with the National Reconnaissance Office, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.

Large aerospace companies such as Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, Raytheon, General Dynamics, etc., supply the technologies and components for the Air Force’s Secret Space Program. Consequently, the Military Industrial Complex/Deep State has played a major role in setting space policy due to its ability to manipulate Air Force officials through the supply and acquisition process.

In earlier articles, I’ve described a “limited disclosure” plan to reveal the existence of two or more space stations along with antigravity flying triangles (TR-3B) and other exotic spacecraft built by these corporations. Tom DeLonge’s To the Stars Academy, also appears to be a limited disclosure initiative as previously explained.

The US Navy’s secret space program is allegedly the most highly classified and advanced secret space program, and compartmentalization has been so successful that few Air Force officials believe that the Navy possesses such a program. One thing that has become clear though, is that the truth about the Navy’s program will only be revealed after the USAF first discloses its Secret Space Program.

Based on my analyses of photographs of craft taken near MacDill Air Force Base, and the experiences of the photographer who interacted with the craft’s occupants, it has become evident that US Air Force Special Operations Command provides the personnel for the USAF Secret Space Program.

Air Force Special Operations Command is one of the ten Major Commands that make up the USAF. Another Command central to space operations is Air Force Space Command. While Air Force Space Command handles logistics and technologies for space operations, AF Special Operations Command handles personnel.

Therefore, the real purpose in Trump proposing the Space Force is that he wants to accelerate the disclosure process by which the technologies and know-how that are used in the Air Force’s Secret Space Program, are taken away from the multiple bureaucracies and corporations that secretly run it – the Military Industrial Complex/Deep State.

Trump wants the office of the chief executive, the White House, to play a direct role in setting the policy agenda for future space operations, which for decades have been set without any real oversight by the White House.

In the planning and creation of a U.S. Space Force, Trump has initiated a process by which he and the White House will play a more influential role in future space policy, which hitherto have been controlled by the USAF Secret Space Program and the Military Industrial Complex/Deep State.

The last President to confront the Military Industrial Complex/Deep State in such a brazen way over advanced aerospace technologies (UFOs) was John F. Kennedy with his twin memoranda on November 12, 1963, initiating joint space and lunar operations with the Soviet Union. The tragic outcome for President Kennedy is well known, I predict that Trump is likely to have more success with his Space Force initiative.

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[Note: Audio Version of above article is available here or see below]

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The US House of Representatives passed a bill on July 14 that includes a proposal for the establishment of a Space Corps to be formed out of existing US Air Force space operations. The proposal suggests that the Space Corps have a relationship to the US Air Force that parallels the current US Navy relationship with the Marine Corps.

What makes the proposal interesting is that it is being opposed by the US Air Force and the White House, both believe such a separation is unnecessary. According to Air Force Chief of Staff, General David Goldfein:

If you’re saying the words separate and space in the same sentence, I would offer, you’re moving in the wrong direction.

Similarly, the White House released a statement saying “the creation of a separate Space Corps … is premature at this time.”

Why is Congress attempting to push through a radical restructuring of USAF over the objections of senior military officials?

For an answer, we can examine the possibility that the USAF runs a second tier secret space program, and that the “real” or “first tier” space program is run by the US Navy. Indeed, this is precisely what was indicated by British hacker, Gary McKinnon, who found a list of “non-terrestrial officers” and “fleet to fleet” transfers.

The language found on the hacked Pentagon documents is clearly suggestive of a US Navy led secret space program. Does the Navy have space fleets where such transfers are a regular occurrence for its “non-terrestrial officers”?

Such a possibility has been solidified by a number of alleged secret space program whistleblowers, which began with Michael Relfe in 2000, Randy Cramer in 2014, and Corey Goode in 2015. All three, to varying degrees, refer to a Navy led “Space Corps”, which has existed since at least 1976.

Furthermore, all three claim to have served in “20 and back” programs based on age-regression and time travel technologies, without any direct evidence to support their incredible claims. The lack of direct evidence has predictably led to many skeptics deeming such claims outlandish, “inherently unverifiable”, and calling for them to be dismissed from serious consideration.

The emergence of William Tompkins’ book in December 2015, Selected by Extraterrestrials, provided something these three alleged whistleblowers have lacked – verifiable documents pointing to the existence of a Navy-led secret space program. Tompkins’ extensive documentation has been analyzed at length in the 2017 book, The US Navy’s Secret Space Program and Nordic Extraterrestrial Alliance.

Tompkins’ material affirms that a Navy led “20 and back” secret space program exists and does use highly advanced age-regression technologies which he helped pioneer when working at the aerospace company TRW (now part of Northrup Grumman) from 1967 to 1971. He says that beginning in the late 1970’s the first working Navy prototype spacecraft were deployed.

By the early 1980’s, space battle groups were formed comprising space carriers, destroyers and related support craft, some of which were several kilometers in length. Eventually, eight space battle groups were formed that essentially replicated the integrated command structure of a modern aircraft carrier battle group.

Tompkins’ testimony and documents, along with Relfe, Cramer and Goode’s testimonies, provides an answer to what McKinnon says he saw in terms of “fleet to fleet transfers”. Furthermore, McKinnon’s “non-terrestrial officers” would refer to Navy personnel that are actively serving under “20 and back” or similar programs.

If the above testimonies are accepted, then it is quite clear that a Navy-led Space Corps has been in operation for over four decades. More precisely, there are “space marines” currently serving in space, performing similar duties to what marines have been doing under the banner of the Department of the Navy for over two centuries.

We are now in a position to properly assess the House of Representatives proposal for a Space Corps. The proposal suggests that the USAF is the lead military service when it comes to space operations. However, if we accept the testimony of Tompkins, McKinnon, Goode, etc., then it is clear that it is the US Navy that is the lead military service in space operations.

By Congress proposing a USAF led Space Corps, something that the Air Force leadership opposes, what effectively is happening is that the general public is being encouraged to follow a manufactured debate – a red herring. The idea is to mislead the public into believing that the USAF is the lead military service in space affairs, and that a “Space Corps” does not presently exist.

This is diametrically opposed to what Tompkins, McKinnon, Goode, etc., have revealed. Therefore, it is fair to conclude that the proposal to form a US Space Corps as a separate military service under the USAF is little more than a red herring aimed at distracting the public from what is really happening in deep space. The real intent behind the Congress proposing such a Space Corps may be to condition the general public to accept a future “limited disclosure” of a USAF space program, while hiding the truth about the far more advanced Navy program.

© Michael E. Salla, Ph.D. Copyright Notice

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secret space programs top amazons best seller list

On March 5, three Secret Space Program books were at the top of the Amazon Best Seller lists for the UFO category. Two of the books, deal with a highly secretive program run by the US Navy, while the other deals with the US Air Force’s better known program run out of Area 51.

the U.S. Navy's Secret Spae ProgramThe current number 1 is The US Navy’s Secret Space Program and Nordic Extraterrestrial Alliance just released on March 1 that focuses on the testimony of retired aerospace engineer William Tompkins. The book uses extensive documentation to validate his claim of being directly involved in a US Navy espionage program with 29 Navy spies embedded in Nazi Germany’s top aerospace programs. He also revealed the existence of a Navy research study program at its premier China Lake facility to learn about antigravity technologies which were found after the February 1942 Los Angeles Air Raid.

Tompkins later worked with several aviation companies to help the Navy design and build massive space battle groups out of its highly classified facilities hidden under the Wasatch Mountains in Utah.The book examines the historic role played by a Nordic group of extraterrestrials in helping the development of antigravity technologies first in pre-war Germany, and later in the USA in a secret alliance with the Navy.

sekret-machinesThe number two listed Amazon book is authored by Tom DeLonge and Peter Levenda and is titled Sekret Machines: Volume 1 of Gods Man and War. It is the non-fiction companion of the 2016 fiction book, Sekret Machines: Chasing Shadows, which discussed a US Air Force run secret space program. It becomes available on March 7 and will focus on evidence of historical visitation by extraterrestrials or “Gods” provided to DeLonge by a team of 10 advisors drawn from the US military and aerospace corporations. The book’s Amazon description says: “Sekret Machines: GODS will take you on an eye-opening journey that transcends speculation and is based on unprecedented access to officials at the highest levels of government, military and industrial agencies who have provided insights and assistance never before experienced by any researchers in this controversial field.”

selected-by-extraterrestrialsThe number three top selling Amazon book is authored by William Tompkins, and edited by Dr. Robert Wood (who also wrote the Foreword to the above US Navy’s Secret Space Program book), and is titled Selected by Extraterrestrials: My life in the top secret world of UFOs, think-tanks and Nordic secretaries. It is the first volume of his autobiography where he reveals his involvement in the Navy’s espionage program and work with Douglas Aircraft Company and TRW to design antigravity spacecraft. Most remarkable is Tompkins’ claim of having worked with Nordic extraterrestrials secretly embedded in top aviation companies who covertly helped engineers and scientists achieve the technical know how to build large antigravity craft. Tompkins provides extensive documentation to support his amazing claims.

It is noteworthy that an additional two books about secret space programs (Insiders Reveal Secret Space Programs and The Ascension Mysteries) make the top six Amazon best seller list in the UFO category (see following March 5 screenshot). Both focus on the remarkable testimony of Corey Goode, and include other witnesses and whistleblowers disclosing their knowledge about these highly classified military and corporate run programs.


The fact that three secret space program books currently top the Amazon best seller list for the UFO category is a testament to the rapidly growing interest among the general public for information about such programs. It’s very clear that people are embracing the evidence that many UFO sightings are related to highly classified technology projects that have been developed in top military and corporate scientific facilities, without the public learning the truth about their development, and the link to extraterrestrial visitation. Now, thanks to a growing number of whistleblowers, witnesses and “White Hats” in the military and corporate world, the truth is being fully disclosed to the world.

Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.

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rand-and-alien-proxy-war1[Click here for Part 1] In a September 19 phone interview, William Tompkins said that in addition to two generals, two admirals were in the Douglas Working Group created shortly after the February 1942 Los Angeles UFO incident, which ultimately led to the formation of Project RAND in 1945. The RAND Corporation website, however, only mentions two generals, Curtis LeMay and Lauris Norstad, in the creation of Project RAND. There was no mention of Navy admirals involved in Project RAND, even though according to Tompkins, the Navy was a major player in the study of antigravity craft both during and after World War II.

During World War II, Tompkins says that he made multiple visits to Naval facilities in China Lake and Pennsylvannia, which were closely examining the briefing packets he was delivering based on the debriefings of 29 spies in multiple Nazi aerospace projects. Clearly, the Navy was interested in developing antigravity craft, but its role would be unacknowledged, as far the official history of the RAND Corporation was involved.

Only Army Air Force officials would be acknowledged by official RAND historians, and this was reflected in the growing influence of the soon to be created U.S. Air Force, which had its own ideas in how to deal with extraterrestrial visitors and the Nazi presence in Antarctica.

By late 1947, a decision was made to separate RAND from Douglas, as the RAND website explains:

By late 1947, it seemed as though Project RAND—which was already operating fairly autonomously—should consider separating from Douglas. In February 1948, the Chief of Staff of the newly created United States Air Force wrote a letter to the president of the Douglas Aircraft Company that approved the evolution of Project RAND into a nonprofit corporation, independent of Douglas.

According to Tompkins the separation was not as smooth a transition as the RAND website depicts. He said in his September 19 interview that roughly two thirds of the personnel working in Project RAND moved over to the Santa Monica facility for the newly created RAND Corporation, while one third remained with Douglas at its own facilities in Santa Monica.

It is this remnant of Project RAND that formed the secret Douglas think tank, Advanced Design, which Tompkins began working for in early 1951 after joining Douglas only months earlier in late 1950. Tompkins likened the separation of Project RAND from Douglas as a traumatic divorce, as he describes in his book, Selected by Extraterrestrials (p.58):

I had been flying up to Douglas, from Naval Air Station North Island San Diego, since spring 1943… Now seven years later, it had been over a year since the divorce. The atmosphere in the Tank was thick with overwhelming tension and resentment. The personnel who had been forced to stay with the family [Douglas Aircraft Company] were hit the hardest. Those who wanted to stay, but who had to leave, also had strong feelings.

Tompkins went on to describe his surprise in 1951 when he learned of the antigravity projects being secretly studied by the Douglas scientists and engineers in its classified think tank, and how a separate think tank [RAND Project] had been created to study antigravity technology:

We were totally unaware that this strange, out-of-this-world thing had ever existed inside a classified engineering area, inside an aircraft company, one which in turn, must have existed inside another classified area. Another Think Tank, comprised of other people, was also tasked to evaluate the unbelievable events. [Selected by Extraterrestrials, p. 58] 


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Tompkins has supplied a document confirming that antigravity technology was indeed being studied by the Douglas Aircraft Company during this period. The document (on right) reveals that Tompkins superiors in the Douglas think tank, Elmer Wheaton and W.B. Klemperer, were researching UFO reports and antigravity studies in open source material.

What Tompkins says next in his book is very revealing in terms of the antagonistic relationship that quickly developed between the RAND Corporation and the Douglas think tank formed out of the personnel remaining from Project RAND:

For years, this was a thorn in our sides. We were subjected to continuous interruptions in our conference rooms, by other people who appeared there to evaluate our studies and concepts. [Selected by Extraterrestrials, p. 58] 

Elsewhere in his book, Tompkins describes acts of industrial sabotage that set back the Navy’s efforts to work with Douglas Advanced Design think tank in designing future Navy Space Battle groups.

On the one hand, human-looking extraterrestrials that appeared Scandinavian, and were hence described by Tompkins as “Nordics”, were helping Douglas engineers in designing kilometers-long space carriers and cruisers. Tompkins says that the Nordic extraterrestrials were cultivating the U.S. Navy as future allies in the military conflicts that were occurring with Draconian Reptilians, elsewhere in the galaxy.

On the other hand, according to Tompkins, the Draconians, along with their Nazi allies, were sabotaging projects that Douglas Advanced Design were working on for the future Navy space battle groups. The RAND Corporation, according to Tompkins testimony, was linked to this industrial sabotage, suggesting that RAND and the USAF, was being influenced by the Draconian extraterrestrials and Nazis.

There are two major issues to consider here when evaluating Tompkins incredible testimony about Nordic and Draconian extraterrestrials using the U.S. Navy and Air Force as proxies in a galactic conflict. Both directly relate to the history of the RAND Corporation and its current activities.

28 Mar 1949, Washington, DC, USA --- Surprise Decoration for Forrestal.  Washington, D.C.:  Retiring Secretary of Defense James V. Forrestal is shown as he received distinguished service medal from President Harry S. Truman in surprise ceremony in White House.  Forrestal's resignation became effective today, and the citation with medal haled his "exceptionally meritorious service in duty of great responsibility."  New secretary of defense is Louis A. Johnson. --- Image by © Bettmann/CORBIS

28 Mar 1949, Washington, DC, USA — Retiring Secretary of Defense James V. Forrestal receives distinguished service medal from President Harry S. Truman.

First, it is well known that former Navy Secretary, James Forrestal, who became the inaugural Secretary of Defense in September 1947, was locked in a number of bitter policy struggles with Stuart Symington, the first Secretary of the U.S. Air Force (from September 1947 to April 1950).

What is not well known, according to Tompkins, is that Forrestal was in charge of the Navy espionage program on the Nazi antigravity programs and their alliance with Draconian Reptilians during World War II. Tompkins says that the findings of the Navy espionage program led directly to Forrestal’s order to establish the Office of Research and Inventions in May 1945 (image below).

forrestal-memoForrestal’s role in the Navy’s espionage program was very likely a significant factor in his promotion to Secretary of Defense since he was more aware of the nuances and extent of the problem. Forrestal was in favor of the four military services (Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines), which emerged from the 1947 National Security Act, working together to solve the Nazi and extraterrestrial problem, and to reveal more of the truth to the general public.


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Tompkins believes that Forrestal was being directly influenced by Nordic extraterrestrials who even met with him. However, Forrestal was in a small minority among the policy makers dealing with the Nazi and extraterrestrial problem through an appointed committee set up by President Truman in 1947 that was called Operation Majestic 12 (see Truman Memo on right).

Symington was firmly opposed to Forrestal’s policies, and was a direct factor in the events that led to his sacking as Secretary of Defense on March 28, 1949, and “assassination” two months later. Significantly, this was the same period when the Navy and Army Air Force collaboration in Project RAND came to an end, and the RAND Corporation was launched under Air Force dominance in early 1948.

In my September 19 phone interview, Tompkins estimated that 75% of the projects explored by the Advanced Design division at Douglas was sponsored by the Navy, while 25% were sponsored by the USAF. The situation at the RAND Corporation was almost the exact reverse, with the USAF being the major sponsor of military projects.

The second issue to consider about a proxy extraterrestrial war involving rival USAF and Navy antigravity programs, is a number of whistleblower testimonies that the USAF led the way in a secret treaty with a group of extraterrestrials directly connected with the Nazi Reptilian alliance. In February 1955, a meeting occurred at Holloman Air Force Base where President Eisenhower secretly negotiated a treaty with a group of Nazi linked extraterrestrials called the Tall Grays.

As described in the book, Insiders Reveal Secret Space Programs and Extraterrestrial Alliances, this treaty was really a negotiated surrender. It emerged as a direct result of UFO flyovers in the summer of 1952 where squadrons of Nazi flying saucers flew over Washington DC., on successive weekends, and the USAF could do nothing to intercept and shoot down the craft.  

The 1955 treaty led to the infiltration of the U.S. Military Industrial Complex by Nazi operatives. The goal was to utilize the manpower and resources of the U.S. for the Dark Fleet and its expanding interplanetary colonies and interstellar missions in support of the Draconian extraterrestrials as described at length by Corey Goode and Tompkins.

As stated by a number of whistleblowers, the USAF worked directly with extraterrestrials and Nazis behind the 1955 agreement to develop squadrons of antigravity spacecraft in the 1960’s and 1970’s for a USAF run secret space program. This cooperation largely continues to the present day, and comprises antigravity craft such as the TR-3B flying triangle operating out of Area 51 in Nevada.

The RAND Corporation continues to help the USAF develop a coherent policy in terms of global research and development related to its secret space program, which is entirely separate to the very public NASA space program. RAND would, in collaboration with the US Air Force, secretly study antigravity designs that could in future help develop squadrons of USAF antigravity spacecraft.

In contrast, up to the early 1960’s, the US Navy worked with Douglas Aircraft’s Advanced Design in designing space battle groups with kilometers-long space carriers and cruisers as Tompkins has recently revealed. The U.S. Navy ultimately succeeded in developing kilometers-long ships for its space battle groups out of its classified research facilities in China Lake, California, and Wasatch Mountains, Utah in collaboration with major corporate aerospace contractors such as Northrup Grumman and Boeing (which inherited the old Douglas think tank with its merger with McDonnell-Douglas in 1997).

This success, according to Tompkins, would not have been possible without the covert assistance of Nordic extraterrestrials. According to Tompkins, and Goode, the first space battle groups were deployed in the mid-1980’s, and there are currently eight in operation in the Navy’s Solar Warden program.

Tompkins has further revealed that Navy’s annual “West” meetings in San Diego, where leading aerospace companies come together to share their research and development findings, has among its purposes, the goal of finding the latest technologies that may be of use for the Navy’s secret space program. Tompkins says that he has attended all of these Navy West meetings since the year 2000, and plans to attend again in 2017 where he has clearance to attend classified meetings.

tourflyeroct2016-300pxThanks to Tompkins ’ remarkable testimony we know more of the real history of the RAND Corporation and some of the internal dynamics of the conflict happening behind the scenes involving the US Navy and Air Force. Both services effectively became proxies for different extraterrestrial groups that had infiltrated the U.S. Military Industrial Complex, who respectively wanted to either assist or sabotage/delay the development of U.S. secret space programs.

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Announcement: Documents and whistleblowers revealing the creation of antigravity spacecraft belonging U.S. secret space programs, and the role of RAND and other corporations, will be presented in an upcoming lecture and workshops in Los Angeles (Oct 8-9) and San Francisco (Oct 14 & 16) by best-selling Amazon.com author Dr Michael Salla. More info here.

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The RAND Corporation traces its origins to a research and development project created inside the Douglas Aircraft Company to study UFOs secretly retrieved by the U.S. military after the February 1942 Los Angeles Air Raid incident, according to former Douglas Aircraft employee, William Tompkins. Tompkins further reveals that in 1943 he began delivering briefing documents from a covert Navy espionage program, which had learned about antigravity craft created by Nazi Germany, to the Douglas research and development project that later evolved into the RAND Corporation.

The Nazi antigravity craft were similar in design to retrieved UFOs suggesting an alliance had been reached between the Nazis and one or more extraterrestrial civilizations. Further compounding the problem, according to Tompkins, was that the Navy spies had learned that the Nazis had relocated significant resources to remote locations in Antarctica during World War II, with the assistance of an extraterrestrial civilization called the Draconians.

douglas-memo-confirming-tompkins-on-loc-committee-72-pxThe secret history of RAND was first revealed by Tompkins in his book, Selected By Extraterrestrials and in subsequent interviews where he discussed his 12 years working at Douglas Aircraft from late 1950 to May 1963. In a September 19 telephone interview, Tompkins gave more details about RAND and its earlier involvement with Douglas Aircraft in studying UFO reports and the Nazis antigravity projects.

Tompkins revealed that in early 1942, after the Los Angeles UFO incident, the President of Douglas Aircraft Company, Donald Douglas, Snr, along with his chief engineer, Arthur Raymond, and his assistant, Franklin Bolbohm, convened an informal working group that included two Navy admirals and two Army Air Force Generals to investigate the research implications of two retrieved UFO craft.  


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A leaked Majestic Document dating from February 1942, supports Tompkins claim that two UFOs had been retrieved after the Los Angeles incident, by the Navy and the Army respectively:

Regarding the air raid over Los Angeles it was learned by Army G2 that Rear Admiral Anderson has informed the War Department of a naval recovery of an unidentified airplane off the coast of California with no bearing on conventional explanation. Further it has been revealed that the Army Air Corps has also recovered a similar craft in the San Bernardino Mountains east of Los Angeles which cannot be identified as conventional aircraft. This Headquarters has come to the determination that the mystery airplanes are in fact not earthly and according to secret intelligence sources they are in all probability of interplanetary origin.

The Douglas Aircraft Corporation was headquartered in Santa Monica, so it is natural to assume that senior Douglas personnel would have witnessed the Los Angeles event, which Tompkins himself witnessed as an 18 year old at the time, and described in detail in Selected by Extraterrestrials.

Subsequently, it is very plausible that Donald Douglas, Snr, would have contacted senior officers in both the US Navy and Army to form an informal working group to discuss the UFO incident and its implications for the aeronautical industry in early 1942. After all, Douglas Aircraft Company was ramping up aircraft production for both the US Navy and Army Air Force, and it behooved everyone to learn as much as possible about the UFOs involved in the Los Angeles incident.

Therefore Tompkins’ claim that it was out of this informal working group established by Donald Douglas, which three years later led to the formal establishment of Project RAND in October 1945, is supported by historical events.

By 1948 Project Rand evolved further into a separate organization called the RAND Corporation. Today, the RAND Corporation is a global policy think tank with over 1800 staff, multiple U.S. and international offices, scientists drawn from 53 countries, nearly US$300 million in revenue, and with major divisions in (RAND) Europe and (RAND) Australia.

It is historical fact that the RAND Corporation owes its origins to a classified Research ANd Design (RAND) project initially created within the Douglas Aircraft Company. By 1945, Douglas was among the leading manufacturers of aircraft for both the US Navy and US Army Air Force. Douglas produced nearly 30,000 aircraft for the successful war effort, and its engineers and production facilities were world renowned.

It was not only the Los Angeles UFO incident that was being studied by the Douglas Aircraft Company’s informal working group that later evolved into the RAND Project in 1945. Tompkins revealed that in early 1942, he was involved in a covert Navy espionage program conducted out of the Naval Air Station, San Diego, whose chief mission was to learn about Nazi Germany’s secret antigravity research programs. According to Tompkins, 29 Navy spies with German American backgrounds who spoke German fluently, had learned that the Nazis were working on 30 different antigravity prototypes.

The spies said that the Nazis had established two separate antigravity research programs. The first, located in Nazi Occupied Europe, was run by the Nazi SS and aimed at weaponizing antigravity prototypes in order to win the war. These were part of Hitler’s promised wonder weapons (“Wunderwaffe”) that he believed would ensure Nazi Germany’s eventual victory.

The second program, located in secure facilities under the Antarctica ice shelf, was primarily aimed at building spacecraft capable of interstellar travel. This more secretive program was led by German Secret Societies whose antigravity research had begun in the 1920’s.

The leaders of the Antarctica program were more interested in interstellar missions, and did not share Hitler’s goal of global military conquest, and allegedly even withheld their most advanced technologies from the Nazis during critical stages of the war.  According to Tompkins, the German program in Antarctica was directly being helped by extraterrestrials who wanted to recruit the Germans as a mercenary space force.

Tompkins says that his job, from 1942 to 1946, was to participate in debriefings of the 29 Navy spies and to then put together briefing packets which he would deliver to various U.S. think tanks, corporations and universities. The goal was to see if anyone could understand the advanced aerospace projects the Nazis were working on, and to evaluate their potential for research and development in the U.S.

passes to enter naval intelligenceTompkins has supplied documents that confirm he was indeed allowed to take “packets” out of the Naval Air Station as a “Disseminator of Naval Aircraft Research and Information.” Significantly, Tompkins writes in Selected by Extraterrestrials (p.58), that he began delivering briefing packets to Douglas Aircraft Corporation in the Spring of 1943.

Tompkins says that years later, in 1950, he began working with Douglas Aircraft, and was quickly recruited into their secret think tank, called Advanced Design, once it was realized that he was earlier involved in the Navy’s covert espionage program out of Nazi Germany.

In 1942, however, a decision had been made at the highest level of the U.S. national security complex not to invest significant resources into the research and development of recovered antigravity spacecraft, until after the war.

Leaked “Majestic Documents” reveal that President Roosevelt, following the advice of military officials, had concluded that the advanced science behind the recovered antigravity craft would be too challenging to reverse engineer in a timeframe suited to the war effort.


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In a memorandum to his science advisor, Dr. Vannevar Bush, Roosevelt firmly ruled out a research and development program of “non-terrestrial” technologies based on antigravity principles, because its expense would impact on the development of more conventional military weapons such as the atomic bomb. Roosevelt wrote:

Various points have been raised about the difficulties such an endeavor would pose to the already hardened research for advanced weapons programs and support groups in our war effort and I agree that now is not the time. It is my personal judgment that, when the war is won, and peace is once again restored, there will come a time when surplus funds may be available to pursue a program devoted to understanding non-terrestrial science and its technology which is still greatly undiscovered.

Roosevelt went on to assure that the U.S. would eventually play a leading role in developing the incredible technologies that had fallen into their hands.   

Consequently, it would be after the war that significant scientific resources would be finally devoted to research and development of recovered antigravity craft. In the meantime, the U.S. military would gather as much intelligence as possible on what the Axis Powers were doing in this arena, along with the recovery of any antigravity craft of non-terrestrial origin.

The covert Navy espionage program that Tompkins was involved in was therefore the U.S. military’s main intelligence gathering effort in learning about antigravity technology, and its potential use after the war.

The Majestic Documents further  reveal that the Navy was instructed to share its intelligence findings on antigravity craft and UFOs with the Army’s G-2 Intelligence, which was assigned primary responsibility for investigating the antigravity craft.

Tompkins has confirmed in phone interviews that he would also give his briefing packets to Army Research and Development facilities, despite reservations by senior Navy personnel in sharing its prized intelligence data.

Consequently, with the official end to World War II hostilities the US Navy and Army Air Force took their first step in planning how it would conduct research and development of antigravity craft which would be used for creating a U.S. space program.

Two months after the surrender of Japan in August 1945, Project RAND was formally set up by the Douglas Aircraft Company in cooperation with the U.S. Army Air Force. Douglas was the ideal corporation for the task since it worked closely with both the Navy and Army Air Force (which became the US Air Force in September 1947).

The RAND Corporation website contains a short historical overview that alludes to the need for the different military services to work together in finally moving forward with a comprehensive research and development program for the advanced antigravity technologies discovered during the war. The Commanding General of the Army Air Force, H.H. “Hap” Arnold wrote a report advocating “the continuance of teamwork among the military, other government agencies, industry, and the universities.”

In addition to Arnold, the RAND website identifies others involved in setting up the RAND Project:

Other key players involved in the formation of this new, private organization were Major General Curtis LeMay; General Lauris Norstad, Assistant Chief of Air Staff, Plans; Edward Bowles of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, consultant to the Secretary of War; Donald Douglas, president of the Douglas Aircraft Company; Arthur Raymond, chief engineer at Douglas; and Franklin Collbohm, Raymond’s assistant. The name of the organization? Project RAND.

The historical overview found in the RAND website is significant since it confirms the leading role of the Douglas Aircraft Company in supporting the U.S. military in researching and developing the secrets of antigravity due to the expertise of their scientists and engineers.

The official history of the RAND Corporation furthermore supports Tompkins claim that an informal working group, convened by Donald Douglas, had been earlier established to study antigravity after the Los Angeles UFO incident.

When the official RAND history is combined with the 1942 Majestic Documents describing US Army and Navy cooperation in retrieving and studying two flying saucers recovered after the 1942 Los Angeles incident and Tompkins testimony, it becomes clear that the RAND Project began as a joint Army Air Force and Navy initiative with the Douglas Aircraft Company to study antigravity technologies recovered from alien visitors and intelligence data from Nazi flying saucer projects.  

tourflyeroct2016-300pxYet less than three years later, the RAND Project came to an acrimonious end with rival Navy and Air Force antigravity research programs that would evolve into separate secret space programs. Tompkins’ testimony reveals that competing extraterrestrial groups worked behind the scenes to direct the U.S. military industrial complex in how it would develop antigravity technologies, and the RAND Corporation was a major institutional player in a hidden proxy conflict.

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